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<ul><li><strong>Related to</strong> <i><a class="issue tracker-2 status-3 priority-4 priority-default closed" href="/issues/24447">Feature #24447</a>: mgr/dashboard: Add UI support for managing roles</i> added</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179242018-07-27T12:52:55ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Description</strong> updated (<a title="View differences" href="/journals/117924/diff?detail_id=116424">diff</a>)</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179272018-07-27T12:59:38ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Description</strong> updated (<a title="View differences" href="/journals/117927/diff?detail_id=116427">diff</a>)</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179282018-07-27T13:13:31ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>New</i> to <i>4</i></li><li><strong>Assignee</strong> set to <i>Ricardo Marques</i></li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179312018-07-27T13:15:27ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Description</strong> updated (<a title="View differences" href="/journals/117931/diff?detail_id=116432">diff</a>)</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179322018-07-27T13:34:30ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>4</i> to <i>Need More Info</i></li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1179332018-07-27T13:35:08ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>Need More Info</i> to <i>4</i></li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1180662018-07-30T20:20:48ZJu Lim
<ul></ul><p>I'm still trying to get some feedback on the labels, e.g. rgw-manager (RGW Manager) vs. object-gateway-manager (Object Gateway Manager).</p>
It boils down to who the target users for Ceph Dashboard are. Specifically:
<ol>
<li>Target Ceph expert users who are very familiar with Ceph terminology, i.e. we would then show labels like RBD, RGW, etc.</li>
<li>Target less savvy Ceph users who are not Ceph experts who may or may be familiar with the Ceph terminology but have a solid understanding of storage, i.e. they are more familar with labels like Block image, Block mirroring, Object gateway, etc.</li>
</ol>
<p>So far, I've heard back from Ceph experts who all lean more towards # 1 above. The rationale is that while we may want to target less savvy Ceph admins, the thought is that storage is too critical for it to be managed by someone who knows nothing about the technology they're in charge of, plus they are fairly simple concepts to grasp once you get the hang of the "lingo." Furthermore, having 'unfamiliar' terms in the dashboard may also prompt the admin to go do more research and become better acquainted with the technology, thus those familiar with Ceph will feel more at home.</p>
<p>If needed, we can provide tooltips where it makes sense to.</p> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1181092018-07-31T07:52:03ZLenz Grimmer
<ul></ul><p>Ju Lim wrote:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I'm still trying to get some feedback on the labels, e.g. rgw-manager (RGW Manager) vs. object-gateway-manager (Object Gateway Manager).</p>
It boils down to who the target users for Ceph Dashboard are. Specifically:
<ol>
<li>Target Ceph expert users who are very familiar with Ceph terminology, i.e. we would then show labels like RBD, RGW, etc.</li>
<li>Target less savvy Ceph users who are not Ceph experts who may or may be familiar with the Ceph terminology but have a solid understanding of storage, i.e. they are more familar with labels like Block image, Block mirroring, Object gateway, etc.</li>
</ol>
<p>So far, I've heard back from Ceph experts who all lean more towards # 1 above. The rationale is that while we may want to target less savvy Ceph admins, the thought is that storage is too critical for it to be managed by someone who knows nothing about the technology they're in charge of, plus they are fairly simple concepts to grasp once you get the hang of the "lingo." Furthermore, having 'unfamiliar' terms in the dashboard may also prompt the admin to go do more research and become better acquainted with the technology, thus those familiar with Ceph will feel more at home.</p>
<p>If needed, we can provide tooltips where it makes sense to.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Thank you, Ju - much appreciated. The motivation to use more "generic" terms here is related to similar ambitions to use these in the reference manual. If you look at <a class="external" href="http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/">http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/</a> you will notice that it too uses "Ceph Object Store" instead of "RADOS Gateway", "Ceph Block Device" instead of "RBD", for example. I think the dashboard should be aligned with the terminology we use in the documentation.</p> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1193782018-08-24T08:23:12ZLenz Grimmer
<ul><li><strong>Related to</strong> <i><a class="issue tracker-2 status-3 priority-4 priority-default closed" href="/issues/24267">Feature #24267</a>: mgr/dashboard: support roles and privileges</i> added</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1419872019-07-29T13:03:54ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Assignee</strong> deleted (<del><i>Ricardo Marques</i></del>)</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1535052019-12-05T21:40:40ZPatrick Donnellypdonnell@redhat.com
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>4</i> to <i>New</i></li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1537232019-12-06T11:41:32ZRicardo Marquesrimarques@suse.com
<ul><li><strong>Status</strong> changed from <i>New</i> to <i>Won't Fix</i></li></ul><p>We haven't received feedback about this so I'm closing it for now.</p>
<p>Feel free to reopen if this change is still valid.</p> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1736622020-08-25T17:14:00ZErnesto Puerta
<ul><li><strong>Related to</strong> <i><a class="issue tracker-4 status-1 priority-4 priority-default child" href="/issues/47135">Cleanup #47135</a>: mgr/dashboard: terminology review and improvement</i> added</li></ul> Dashboard - Cleanup #25136: mgr/dashboard: Security role names should be consistent with the UIhttps://tracker.ceph.com/issues/25136?journal_id=1917452021-04-15T17:29:01ZErnesto Puerta
<ul><li><strong>Project</strong> changed from <i>mgr</i> to <i>Dashboard</i></li><li><strong>Category</strong> changed from <i>132</i> to <i>General</i></li></ul>